{"id":144,"date":"2011-08-03T15:43:47","date_gmt":"2011-08-03T19:43:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/phdplus\/?p=144"},"modified":"2011-08-03T15:43:47","modified_gmt":"2011-08-03T19:43:47","slug":"lost-and-found-in-translation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/phdplus\/2011\/08\/03\/lost-and-found-in-translation\/","title":{"rendered":"Lost and Found in Translation"},"content":{"rendered":"

Last month, I attended the Cuartas Jornadas de Teoria de Numeros<\/a> in Bilbao, Spain. This biennial conference is targeted at (but not exclusively for) Latin American and Spanish number theorists. This year, they featured an impressive international roster of plenary speakers, as well as a number of short talks by number theorists specializing in various disciplines (including yours truly). In this post, I would like to share what stood out for me the most at this conference: language. In particular, I want to share some of my thoughts on the difficulties of translating mathematical terms and the surprisingly-not-so-international nature of mathematics. <\/p>\n

People say that mathematics is a universal language. Anyone can understand mathematics, no matter what language it\u2019s in (OK, not anyone<\/em>, but you know what I mean). I am inclined to disagree, since most mathematical objects\u00a0 have names that are very much connected to the language you are speaking. A vector bundle is essentially, as its name says, a bunch of vector spaces bundled up together. So if you don\u2019t know how to say the word “bundle” in French, good luck getting across what you\u2019re talking about. I do understand that given the formal definition, one would probably be able to tell if someone is talking about a vector bundle, even if you don\u2019t understand some of the words. In reality, it seems like these days English is the default math language that we all use. Most books, journals, and conference presentations are in English. Of course, in the past it has been different, for example in the distant past it was Latin. But during this conference, there were many instances (even when the talks were fully in Spanish with Spanish slides) where someone would just use the mathematical terms in English, because they didn’t know how one would say it in Spanish.<\/p>\n

Only one person, Edward Frenkel<\/a>, from UC Berkeley, gave the whole talk in English. But like I said, this was not an issue since everyone there understood and spoke English. One of the organizers told me that since its beginnings, they have tried to invite at least one plenary speaker who is not from the Spanish speaking community. Frenkel turned out to be a perfect choice since he was already going to be in town for a conference on Mathematics and Art<\/a>. For those of you who are wondering about this, Frenkel is a multi-talented fellow who not only publishes with Fields medalists<\/a> but also dabbles in filmmaking<\/a>. As a side note, during his talk, Frenkel mentioned a Turkish expression, \u201cya tutarsa\u201d, which translates roughly to \u201ckeep the dream alive\u201d.\u00a0 This expression was used initially by Langlands in his paper Beyond Endoscopy, and apparently according to him it was better left un-translated.<\/p>\n

Initially (as you may have seen in my previous post<\/a>), I was thinking of translating a 50-minute, English language talk into a 25-minute, Spanish language talk. In the end, I found myself scrambling for time even for the shortening of the talk (it is hard to do!), and I hadn\u2019t even translated any slides yet. So, with the permission of the organizers, I decided I would leave the slides in English (although I translated the title slide and the \u201cThank You\u201d slide) and give the talk in Spanish. This also turned out to be tricky, since I had to practice looking at slides written in English but saying the equivalent things in Spanish. There were some mathematical objects for which I had never learned the words in Spanish (for example, \u201cvector bundle\u201d<\/a>, which turned out to be \u201chaz vectorial\u201d or \u201cfibrado vectorial\u201d depending on who you asked). So after I had researched every term I didn\u2019t know and practiced many times in my room, the talk went pretty smoothly. I even made some people chuckle at my over-use of \u201cchevere\u201d (which means \u201ccool\u201d and is mainly used by Venezuelans).<\/p>\n

This “multi-lingual slides” thing became a running joke at some point. I guess it started with Matilde Lalin<\/a>, who warned that her first slide (the title one) was the last one in Spanish. I repeated this apology\/warning in my talk. There were a few more people who did the same. And on the last day, two people wrote their title slides in Euskera<\/a>, and they literally translated the math objects word by word (\u201ctowers of fields\u201d became \u201ccolumns of fields\u201d, for example). But the funniest instance was when one of the plenary speakers, Carlos Vinuesa<\/a> (also multi-talented<\/a>), started his talk with a slide written completely in Hungarian. He followed that by saying \u201cwell, the math\u2019s still clear, right?\u201d (To which most of us replied, in our heads, “Um, no it isn’t!”). There were many looks of shock exchanged and I think I heard someone gasp. I guess the prospect of a 50-minute talk with slides written entirely in Hungarian was a little worrisome. He then explained all the different definitions on his slide and said “now it’s much clearer, right?”. And suddenly, the same slide appeared, but this time written in Spanish, and the whole room exhaled a sigh of relief.<\/p>\n

I wanted to end this post with one last thought. It is easy to think that language matters a lot when one is talking about poetry, for example, and maybe this is not so obvious when talking about mathematics. But even though there are a lot of symbols and mathematical expressions that are easily understandable no matter what language you use, I think we should keep in mind that the mathematical language is in fact very complex, and inextricably linked to our own language. It was a great experience for me, after so many years of living in the U.S. and doing mathematics mostly in English, to have the opportunity to both give a talk and also attend talks in Spanish. It gave me a chance to be able to experience both how rich and at the same time how limited the languages we speak are, even when it comes to expressing mathematics.<\/p>\n

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