{"id":32281,"date":"2017-11-21T13:35:18","date_gmt":"2017-11-21T18:35:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/?p=32281"},"modified":"2017-11-20T23:58:42","modified_gmt":"2017-11-21T04:58:42","slug":"intersection-chain-subsets","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/2017\/11\/21\/intersection-chain-subsets\/","title":{"rendered":"Intersection of a Chain of Subsets"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Assume $\\{F_x\\}_{x \\in \\Gamma}$ is a collection of subsets (of a not-so important set!) such that every two are comparable, i.e for any $x$ and $y$, either $F_x \\subset F_y \\ \\ $ or $\\ \\ F_x \\supset F_y \\ $ .<\/p>\n<p>Considering the intersection $\\cap_x F_x$ we see that many of the sets could be skipped without altering the intersection.<\/p>\n<p>Question: Is it possible to attain the same intersection by taking only countably-many of the subsets?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Theorem:<\/strong> There is a chain of subsets of the unit interval whose intersection does not equal the intersection of any countably-many of them. They may be chosen measurable.<\/p>\n<p>In order to give a proof we first show a simple lemma.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lemma<\/strong>: If $\\{A_j\\}_{j=1}^\\infty $ is a chain then there exists a decreasing sequence out of its members<\/p>\n<p>$$ G_1 \\supset G_2 \\supset \\cdots $$<\/p>\n<p>such that $\\cap_j A_j = \\cap_i G_i $ .<\/p>\n<p>Proof: Take $G_1=A_1\\ $, and let $j(1)=1\\ $. We will move along the sequence $A_i$ and pick those that are needed in the intersection, which means those that are smaller. The details are as follows:<\/p>\n<p>Let $j(2)$ be the first index bigger than $j(1)$ such that $A_{j(2)} \\subsetneq G_{j(1)}$. If no such index exists then all the subsequent sets contain $A_1$, and so we can take the constant sequence $G_i=A_{j(1)}$ and it will satisfy the assertions in the claim.<\/p>\n<p>Inductively, assuming that $G_1\u00a0\\supset\u00a0 G_2\u00a0\\supset\u00a0 \\cdots\u00a0\\supset\u00a0 G_k$, and $j(1) &lt; j(2) &lt; \\cdots &lt; j(k)$ have been defined, we define $j(k+1)$ to be the least index after $j(k)$ such that $A_{j(k+1)} \\subsetneq G_k=A_{j(k)}$, and $G_{k+1}=A_{j(k+1)}$. Again, if such an index does not exist then we could have the constant sequence $G_k$ satisfying the assertions of the claim.<\/p>\n<p>If an infinite sequence\u00a0$G_1\u00a0\\supset\u00a0 G_2\u00a0\\supset\u00a0 \\cdots \\ $ emerges eventually, then it is the sequence claimed, because each $A_i$ was given a chance at some point! (If, say, $A_{2017}$ is none of the $G_j$&#8217;s, then it means that it contained one of them.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Proof of the theorem:<\/strong> Take $\\mathfrak{C}$ to be the collection of all Lebesgue-measurable subsets of the unit interval with measure equal to 1 and order it with the inclusion relation &#8220;$\\subset $&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>We will reach a contradiction by assuming that the assertion of the theorem were false.<\/p>\n<p>Take a chain\u00a0$\\mathfrak{F}=\\{F_x\\}_{x \\in \\Gamma}$ in $\\mathfrak{C}$. There would be a countable subcollection $\\{A_j\\}_{j=1}^\\infty $ giving the same intersection.<\/p>\n<p>By the lemma, we can further restrict to a decreasing sequence $ G_1 \\supset G_2 \\supset \\cdots ; G_j \\in \\{F_x\\}_x$ and still have $ \\cap_i G_i = \\cap_j A_j = \\cap_x F_x\\ $.<\/p>\n<p>It is a fact of measure theory that<\/p>\n<p>$$\\mu (\\cap_i G_i ) = \\lim_{j \\rightarrow \\infty} \\mu (G_j) =\u00a0\\lim_{j \\rightarrow \\infty} 1 =1 \\ .$$<\/p>\n<p>Observe that $\\cap_i G_i$ is in $\\mathfrak{C}$, and thus a lower bound to the chain $\\mathfrak{F}$.<\/p>\n<p>What we have shown is that every chain in $\\mathfrak{C}$ has a lower bound. By Zorn&#8217;s lemma, there exists a smallest element in $\\mathfrak{C}$. However, for any element is $\\mathfrak{C}$ removing a single point gives an even smaller set in $\\mathfrak{C}$.<\/p>\n<p>This contradiction shows that for some chains in $\\mathfrak{C}$ the intersection cannot be replaced by a countable intersection.<\/p>\n<p>Note: We can work with smaller $\\mathfrak{C}$ such as the collection $\\{[0,1]\\backslash D \\ \\ | \\ \\ D \\text{\u00a0 is finite}\\}$.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Assume $\\{F_x\\}_{x \\in \\Gamma}$ is a collection of subsets (of a not-so important set!) such that every two are comparable, i.e for any $x$ and $y$, either $F_x \\subset F_y \\ \\ $ or $\\ \\ F_x \\supset F_y \\ &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/2017\/11\/21\/intersection-chain-subsets\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" data-url=https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/2017\/11\/21\/intersection-chain-subsets\/><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":118,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[323,12],"tags":[319,124,67,324],"class_list":["post-32281","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-analysis","category-math","tag-analysis","tag-math","tag-mathematics","tag-measure-theory"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3gbww-8oF","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32281","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/118"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32281"}],"version-history":[{"count":19,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32281\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32411,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32281\/revisions\/32411"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32281"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32281"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32281"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}