{"id":22909,"date":"2013-04-16T03:28:44","date_gmt":"2013-04-16T03:28:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/?p=22909"},"modified":"2014-07-15T14:52:21","modified_gmt":"2014-07-15T19:52:21","slug":"reply-freeman-dyson-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/2013\/04\/16\/reply-freeman-dyson-3\/","title":{"rendered":"A Reply From Freeman Dyson"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/files\/2013\/04\/Dyson-2.jpg\"><br \/>\n<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-22911 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/files\/2013\/04\/Dyson-Last.jpg\" alt=\"Dyson Last\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/files\/2013\/04\/Dyson-Last.jpg 200w, https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/mathgradblog\/files\/2013\/04\/Dyson-Last-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/>When I was an undergrad at the University of Memphis the awe of physics and\u00a0 mathematics held my interests firmly. \u00a0 I would attend weekly seminars in physics that were furnished with nice refreshments. \u00a0 Whether it would be a crisp cookie or a slice of pizza, hunger would cease and my listening turned to thoughts about mathematical applications in physics.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">This is not readily intuitive when one sees abstract pure mathematics for the first time.\u00a0 \u201cHow is this applied?\u201d is the usual question.\u00a0 After some time this inquiry may evaporate when one finds established applications in engineering, operations research, and the like. \u00a0 However, in considering the applications of mathematics in physics there are few with as much insight as the theoretical and mathematical physicist Freeman Dyson.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">A quick Google search will yield a glimpse of the enormity of Dyson\u2019s accomplishments.\u00a0 He was a friend of the Nobel Prize winning physicist Richard Feynman.\u00a0 Consequently, Dyson showed the equivalence between Feynman Diagrams and quantum electrodynamics. \u00a0 In essence, Dyson is one of the most brilliant minds in the history of theoretical and mathematical physics.\u00a0 So I thought it would be neat to email him.\u00a0 And I thought it was even neater when he replied.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">In summary, I sent him an email explaining how one could follow a particular program by using Topology, Representation Theory, and Abstract Algebra to theoretically unify two of the four fundamental forces of nature, Gravity and Electromagnetism.\u00a0 I called it a program and not a solution, because the actual implementation (if the program is a valid corridor of exploration) would have to come from a collaboration of specialists in those fields.<\/p>\n<p>This was Dyson\u2019s reply:<\/p>\n<p>On Jan 17, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Freeman Dyson dyson@ias.edu<\/p>\n<p><i>Dear Avery Carr,<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>I am sorry, I think your program is identical with the program that the great leaders of the past century, Einstein and Weyl and Eddington and others, followed in their unsuccessful attempts to unify gravity and <\/i><i>electromagnetism<\/i><i>.\u00a0 All of them failed.\u00a0 They failed because nature is cleverer than we are.\u00a0 Nature always has special tricks that are not easy for abstract mathematicians to grasp.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>I really appreciated that he took the time to answer my email.\u00a0 His view definitely sparks one to think a little deeper about the problem.<\/p>\n<p>In reading Dyson\u2019s words \u201cnature is cleverer than we are\u2026not easy for abstract mathematicians to grasp\u201d, what do they mean to you?<\/p>\n<p>I think Dyson makes a strong point. \u00a0What do you think?<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; 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