{"id":2172,"date":"2018-09-02T00:01:26","date_gmt":"2018-09-02T04:01:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/matheducation\/?p=2172"},"modified":"2018-09-13T13:44:26","modified_gmt":"2018-09-13T17:44:26","slug":"ideas-under-construction-children-saying-what-they-know","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/matheducation\/2018\/09\/02\/ideas-under-construction-children-saying-what-they-know\/","title":{"rendered":"Ideas under construction: children saying what they know"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Alli entered kindergarten quite skilled at mental addition and proud of her skill. Subtraction followed quickly. Near the end of her kindergarten year, Alli bounced into class and said that her father had taught her about negative numbers. To assure that <em>I<\/em> knew about them, she explained, \u201cIf you subtract 20 from 10, you get negative 10.\u201d I asked, \u201cAnd what if you subtract ten from seven?\u201d She thought a second and chirped \u201cNegative three.\u201d Then she explained how to write a negative number\u2014\u201cJust put a minus in front\u201d\u2014and added \u201cThere are negative numbers <em>and<\/em> positive numbers.\u201d And that was it. As with many conversations with 5-year-olds, this one ended as abruptly as it began.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Later, the teacher showed the kids a mathematical tug-of-war game. Each pair of children would have a single die, a small plastic bear, and a number line laid out like this.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2232\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.ams.org\/matheducation\/files\/2018\/09\/Numberline_0-20-1024x52.png?resize=640%2C33\" alt=\"Numberline with integers 0 through 20. Zero, 10, and 20 are in boldface\" width=\"640\" height=\"33\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.ams.org\/matheducation\/files\/2018\/09\/Numberline_0-20-1024x52.png?resize=1024%2C52&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.ams.org\/matheducation\/files\/2018\/09\/Numberline_0-20-1024x52.png?resize=300%2C15&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.ams.org\/matheducation\/files\/2018\/09\/Numberline_0-20-1024x52.png?resize=768%2C39&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The bear starts on the 10 and children take turns rolling the die, one child moving the bear that many steps toward 20 and the other child moving the bear toward 0. Each child also each had a sheet to record the bear\u2019s moves, one sheet with addition templates <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2233\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.ams.org\/matheducation\/files\/2018\/09\/adding.png?resize=83%2C158\" alt=\"addition format (square for starting number, plus sign and circle below for number to be added, line, then square at bottom for sum)\" width=\"83\" height=\"158\" \/>the other with subtraction <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2234\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.ams.org\/matheducation\/files\/2018\/09\/subtracting.png?resize=83%2C158\" alt=\"subtraction template (square for starting number, minus sign and circle below for number to be subtracted, line, then square below for ending number)\" width=\"83\" height=\"158\" \/>Using this format, the children were to record where the bear had started when their turn began, the size of their move, and where the bear landed.<\/p>\n<p>They all understood the mechanics\u2014roll the die and move the bear that many spaces toward their side. I was surprised that several didn\u2019t seem to understand that they were playing <em>one<\/em> game, <em>together<\/em>, rather than taking turns re-starting the bear at 10 and rolling their die to see how far it went <em>this<\/em> time. It was no surprise, though, that only a few recorded their jumps. Frankly, that made sense. The recording step may (or may not!) serve learning but, to the children, it was simply an arbitrary rule with no logical role in the game. Nothing about the <em>game<\/em> was enhanced by recording it.<\/p>\n<p>We played, cleaned up, and then it was snack time.<\/p>\n<p>During snack time, Alli asked me \u201chow do I write <em>positive<\/em> three?\u201d I thought, of course, of her early morning announcement about negative numbers. Her question was so clear and specific that I didn\u2019t think (as I always should) to say (as I often do) \u201cI\u2019m not sure I understand. Tell me more.\u201d I too quickly assumed that I knew what she meant.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, we usually just write <em>three<\/em>, just the way you always write it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut I mean <em>positive<\/em> three.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I should have realized right then that I\u2019d mistaken what she had in mind, but I plowed on.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJust 3\u2014we <em>could<\/em> put a plus sign in front, but we don\u2019t usually.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNo but I was on 17 and I rolled 6. How do I write positive 3?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, Alli, what <em>is<\/em> seventeen plus six?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTwenty-three. But how do I write positive three?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Now I understood.<\/p>\n<p>Communication with kindergarteners can feel like a string of non-sequiturs when we don\u2019t see the connective tissue, the theory in their mind that they assume we know and that they therefore don\u2019t bother communicating.<\/p>\n<p>It turns out that what Alli meant tells us a lot about the theory she had constructed when her father told her about negative numbers. Prior to hearing about them, Alli had never heard of <em>positive<\/em> numbers, either. There were just numbers. Now she knew there are <em>kinds<\/em> of numbers. I don\u2019t know what her father did or didn\u2019t say, but it\u2019s easy to believe that he, like I, would have assumed that nothing further needed to be said about positive numbers; after all, Alli was already quite adept with them. But for Alli, it wasn\u2019t yet clear that the familiar numbers were just getting a new name, <em>positive<\/em>. For all she knew, the designation <em>positive<\/em> might well be reserved only for some special use.<\/p>\n<p>And that does explain her question. She learned that going below zero called for negative numbers, and that they contrasted with positive numbers somehow. Perhaps she first thought that positive numbers were all the numbers she had already known (or, less likely, that 0 was yet a third category), but in the context of the number line tug of war game, she built a competing theory. The line contained the numbers from 0 to 20\u2014just plain <em>numbers<\/em>. She knows that there are other numbers, not shown. <em>Now<\/em> she knows that below 0 were <em>negative numbers<\/em>. Perhaps the designation <em>positive<\/em> also refers to numbers not shown, but above 20. In other words, the categories she created were not \u201cabove and below zero,\u201d but \u201cabove and below the range we\u2019re attending to.\u201d With astonishing ease for a kindergarten child, she mentally computed 17 + 6 = 23, but now she assumed that \u201cpositive three\u201d was the way to express that excess above 20 and she wanted to know how to write it.<\/p>\n<p>The point of relating this story is not to show how impressively smart kindergarteners can be. And it\u2019s certainly not to note a \u201cmisconception.\u201d It\u2019s to illustrate what I think is a subtle aspect of teaching mathematics. As teachers, we can\u2019t fully control what ideas our students build, even if we believe we are being are quite clear and precise. What people (children and adults) put in their minds is what <em>they<\/em> construct, not what someone else says or even shows, and it combines what they already know with their interpretation of what they are currently seeing and hearing. Because that construction combines current experience with past, our \u201cclear and precise\u201d communication will reach different people differently: each makes something of it, but not necessarily what someone else would make, and not necessarily what we expected would be made. We say\/write what\u2019s in our mind; what gets in the mind of the listener\/reader isn\u2019t <em>conveyed<\/em> there but built there. Communication is not high-fidelity.<\/p>\n<p>Alli was working out a piece of mathematics. That\u2019s where her dad was no doubt focused when he mentioned negative numbers and that\u2019s where I focused as I tried (and at first failed) to answer Alli\u2019s question. But Alli was also working out a piece of English, a definition. In many contexts, we do report how far some value is above or below a range. Although she\u2019s unlikely to have examples like blood-pressure or cholesterol levels, any kindergartener does already know that some categories name whole ranges of numbers above and below another range of numbers. For example, with no particular precision about which numbers demarcate the categories, they know that babies are below a certain age and adults are above a certain other age and in between are children. Alli has no information yet from which to conclude that this isn\u2019t how the words negative and positive are used when referring to numbers. But it <em>could<\/em> be, whence Alli\u2019s interest in knowing how to (or whether we should) treat 23 as \u201cpositive three.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In this story, the uncertainty about the meaning of a word is of no real consequence. Though someone might wonder why knowing about \u201cnegative\u201d was insufficient to clarify for her what \u201cpositive\u201d meant, there\u2019s no risk that Alli\u2019s confusion would lead anyone to conclude that she\u2019s \u201cbad at math.\u201d And, aside from her own interest, there\u2019s no rush for her to know: she is, after all, still in kindergarten and will surely sort this all out in time.<\/p>\n<p>But there <em>are<\/em> times when the vagaries of communication cause mischief. In US elementary schools, it\u2019s common (probably close to universal) practice for teachers to instruct children to pronounce numbers like 3.12 as \u201cthree and twelve hundredths,\u201d not as \u201cthree point one two,\u201d what I call a spelling pronunciation. (In my opinion, the insistence on a fraction pronunciation in school is not helpful\u2014for one thing, just think how you\u2019d be expected to pronounce 3.14159\u2014but I\u2019ll save my many reasons for a later blog post.) In one fourth grade classroom that I was supporting, the teacher asked the students to read 3.12, and then wanted to check their understanding of the place value names, so she asked \u201chow many ones?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The class chorused \u201cThree!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHow many tenths?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd how many hundredths?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dead silence.<\/p>\n<p>Then a timid \u201ctwo?\u201d and a more timid \u201ctwelve?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The context \u201chow many ones, how many tenths\u201d seemed to call for the answer <em>two<\/em>, which is what <em>we<\/em> know the teacher wanted to hear, despite the loose wording of her question. But children don\u2019t yet have a way to be sure. They\u2019d just <em>read<\/em> the number as \u201cthree and twelve hundredths,\u201d so <em>twelve<\/em> was a sensible answer. Nobody, of course, answered \u201cthree hundred twelve,\u201d which would have been a delightful response showing deep understanding, just as nobody answered the earlier questions with \u201c3.12 ones\u201d and \u201c31.2 tenths.\u201d All of these answers are mathematically correct but they\u2019re \u201cwise guy\u201d answers because they violate norms for communication. They are correct, but clearly <em>not<\/em> what the teacher meant by the question. In the case of \u201chow many hundredths,\u201d however, students might well be unsure which the teacher meant.<\/p>\n<p>Because the teacher didn\u2019t recognize the source of the confusion\u2014just as I had not at first understood the source of Alli\u2019s confusion\u2014she heard the hesitation and mixed answers as evidence that the class didn\u2019t really understand the mathematics. I had the luxury of being the observer, hearing and following up individual children\u2019s queries rather than having the full responsibility of the teacher addressing and trying to manage the entire class. What I heard and saw made it clear that virtually all of the children did understand the mathematics; the confusion was only about which of two very reasonable interpretations of the teacher\u2019s question was the one she intended.<\/p>\n<p>Unlike the story of Alli, this miscommunication did have consequences. One consequence was a review that was unnecessary, and therefore a turn-off, and that <em>still<\/em> didn\u2019t clarify the <em>question<\/em> (the English) and so left several children feeling like they \u201cdon\u2019t get it,\u201d despite being able to respond correctly to unambiguous questions on the same content. The worst consequence, in my opinion, is that the lesson some children are getting is not about decimals but that they \u201cjust don\u2019t get math.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>So what\u00a0<em>can<\/em> we do to reduce negative consequences of missed communications?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>At times, I read laments about teachers\u2019 imprecision in language; these are decent examples and I\u2019ll say a bit more about the issue, but later.<\/p>\n<p>In my view (and in all kinds of circumstances), we give students a valuable message when we try to figure out what <em>is<\/em> sensible about their responses and explicitly state it: \u201cAh, <em>you<\/em> were thinking about the twelve hundredths we had just read, and [to the other student] <em>you<\/em> were thinking about just the number shown in that hundredths place.\u201d In a case like this, it\u2019s valuable even to acknowledge that can now see why they hesitated to answer and that <em>we<\/em> didn\u2019t at first understand: \u201cOops, I wasn\u2019t clear about which of those I meant.\u201d Such responses from us teach several things. Possibly the most important is that students know that their thinking is valued even if it takes us a while to catch on. Another is that students see that <em>our<\/em> focus is on the logic, the sense they were trying to make even if it did not match our intent, and that we are assuming that\u2019s <em>their<\/em> focus, too. That sets logic, not an answer to a particular question, at the center of the mathematical game. It values clarity, and it shows that <em>we<\/em>, too, struggle to communicate clearly. It detoxifies errors without fanfare and without \u201ccelebrating mistakes,\u201d which students recognize as school propaganda. (Nobody ever says \u201cWoohoo! I made a mistake!\u201d) It models asking questions when we get lost in communicating an idea. (After all, if the teacher does that, it must be a useful and respectable tool.) And it acknowledges that trying to express mathematical ideas in words is clumsy and difficult\u2014the problem is often <em>not<\/em> the thinking, but the communication\u2014and that\u2019s <em>why<\/em> mathematics has special vocabulary, notation and conventions. It\u2019s not because mathematicians like fancy words and symbols.<\/p>\n<p>And when we can\u2019t understand students\u2019 logic, we can admit that, legitimizing \u201cI don\u2019t understand what you mean\u201d by showing that that happens to <em>us<\/em>, too. Kids\u2019 explanations, even when they are totally correct, are often elliptical or garbled, so there\u2019s plenty of opportunity for us to say, \u201cWait, I don\u2019t get it. Could you explain again?,\u201d giving <em>you<\/em> a chance to understand and giving <em>them<\/em> a chance to clarify and perhaps even rethink.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, what about that issue of teachers\u2019 imprecision in language? Being routinely more precise takes a lot of thought, a lot of knowledge, and a kind of self-consciousness and control that is hard to achieve, but building good \u201cmathematical hygiene\u201d (I attribute that lovely term to Roger Howe) with appropriate use of mathematical vocabulary and correct use of notation is a certainly a thing for teachers to think about. On the other hand we must also recognize that there will remain times when conveying a rough idea of what we mean is the best we can do, times when communication, especially with a child, can\u2019t achieve understandability and precision at the same time. Teaching must walk a fine line.<\/p>\n<p>Mathematics is so much easier than English.<\/p>\n<p>(Just as I was finishing writing this blog post, I saw a brief article \u201cLinguistic Ambiguity\u201d by Ben Hookes in issue 103 of the <em>Primary and Early Years Magazine<\/em> on the NCTEM website, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncetm.org.uk\/resources\/52245\">https:\/\/www.ncetm.org.uk\/resources\/52245<\/a>, which gives other examples in which kids\u2019 sensible interpretations of language leads to answers we might, but shouldn\u2019t, consider wrong.)<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Alli entered kindergarten quite skilled at mental addition and proud of her skill. Subtraction followed quickly. Near the end of her kindergarten year, Alli bounced into class and said that her father had taught her about negative numbers. 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