{"id":4167,"date":"2019-01-08T20:08:06","date_gmt":"2019-01-09T01:08:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/?p=4167"},"modified":"2019-01-09T14:20:24","modified_gmt":"2019-01-09T19:20:24","slug":"on-the-mathematical-wedding-controversy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/2019\/01\/08\/on-the-mathematical-wedding-controversy\/","title":{"rendered":"On the mathematical wedding controversy"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_4178\" style=\"width: 236px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4178\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4178\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/files\/2019\/01\/Orange_wedding_bouquets.jpg?resize=226%2C300\" alt=\"Wedding bouquet flowers\" width=\"226\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/files\/2019\/01\/Orange_wedding_bouquets.jpg?resize=226%2C300&amp;ssl=1 226w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/files\/2019\/01\/Orange_wedding_bouquets.jpg?w=512&amp;ssl=1 512w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 226px) 100vw, 226px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4178\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image courtesy of Jina Lee, Wikimedia CC<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Multiple news sites recently <a href=\"https:\/\/au.lifestyle.yahoo.com\/brides-wedding-day-math-quiz-guests-stirs-debate-online-222411592.html\">reported<\/a> about a wedding planned between two mathematicians in which the happy couple decided to reveal their guests&#8217; dinner seating arrangements as the answers to math problems.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The idea sounds pretty cool to me: &#8220;At the dinner, guests will be required to answer a mathematical question in order to find out where they sit. Each guest\/couple will be presented with a unique, bespoke question: its difficulty and subject matter drawn directly from what we know their mathematical background to be.&#8221; The person who wrote the original Facebook group post even noted their audience: &#8220;In fact, a large number of our guests have research-level mathematical background, so for most of them, their question has been drawn directly from their research papers or thesis,&#8221; they wrote, adding &#8220;It&#8217;s been a rather consuming but very entertaining process to look at all kinds of papers that I wouldn&#8217;t normally ever look at.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>However, after the groom-to-be announced the idea in a Facebook group, someone <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/bridezillas\/comments\/a9004m\/mathshaming_dont_worry_the_difficulty_will_be\/\">shared the post<\/a> (with the couples&#8217; names redacted) on a &#8220;Bridezillas&#8221; Reddit thread.\u00a0<em>Update (as of 1\/9\/2019):<\/em> <em>Thank you,\u00a0Nikita Nikolaev, for reaching out to let me know that this was about your wedding and that the original Facebook post was written by you! (Readers, you can find a public link to that post <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/nikita.nikolaev.752\/posts\/2208321356091587\">here<\/a>, along with a second, more recent post explaining the original idea in detail and describing misinformation in the online coverage\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/nikita.nikolaev.752\/posts\/2219088315014891\">here<\/a>.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Without going on a rant about why I&#8217;ve always opposed the the term &#8220;bridezilla&#8221; being applied to any person, I think the comments people have made related to this couple&#8217;s wedding choice, as well as the widespread sharing of the Reddit thread, say a lot about current attitudes and feelings surrounding mathematics.<\/p>\n<p>Some Reddit comments seem playful, such as the one posted by the username Swibly (&#8220;Upon looking into my background, they would likely decide to just sit me at the kid&#8217;s table.&#8221;) or the one posted by the username SassMyFrass (&#8220;I like this and expect nothing less than this at every wedding I attend from now on.&#8221;). Others call the move fun, sweet, cute or nerdy. However, there are also ones that discuss math anxiety. One person stated that they would decline even if the solving-for-seating-arrangements were scheduled to happen at their best friend&#8217;s wedding. I suppose this shouldn&#8217;t come as a surprise in a world where a <a href=\"https:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/US\/10-year-boy-calls-911-math-home\/story?id=58119014\">10-year-old called 911<\/a> because he didn&#8217;t know how to solve a math homework problem.<\/p>\n<p>Yet we make so many allowances for the personal preferences of couples who are getting married. Example: I once found myself shopping on Black Friday for &#8220;a floor-length dress in a seasonally appropriate shade of green,&#8221; when I&#8217;m not very keen on shopping or wearing dresses (and I&#8217;m usually not very tuned in to what color shades are deemed &#8220;seasonally appropriate&#8221;). However, I searched for the dress anyway, because I was to be a bridesmaid in a friend&#8217;s wedding a few days after my finals ended for the semester. If we&#8217;re going to acknowledge that the wedding is about what the marrying couple wants in so many other ways, why do people balk so much at the idea of a few math-themed interjections, if the folks getting married not only love each other, but also love math?<\/p>\n<p>One reason might be the same as the title of a post\u00a0Samantha Schumacher wrote for her &#8220;Social Mathematics&#8221; blog: <a href=\"https:\/\/socialmathematics.net\/2015\/03\/04\/your-wedding-is-not-about-you\/\">&#8220;Your Wedding is Not about You.&#8221;<\/a> In that post, she provides various pieces of evidence to back up her claim, including a &#8220;Who talks at a wedding?&#8221; pie chart.<\/p>\n<p>If evidence says the wedding itself might not be all about the happy couple, the vows still are. Speaking of vows, I love the <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.tanyakhovanova.com\/2009\/05\/nerdy-wedding\/\">math-themed ones<\/a> that Tanya Khovanov posted on her blog.<\/p>\n<p>Math-themed wedding or not, some wedding reception dance moves might bring to mind this post Ben Orlin created about <a href=\"https:\/\/mathwithbaddrawings.com\/2014\/07\/16\/nonstandard-dancing\/\">&#8220;nonstandard dancing.&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Want to read about love of a mathematical sort? Check out John Baez&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/johncarlosbaez\/status\/1081234511625564160\">Twitter thread<\/a> about how he has &#8220;finally fallen in love with algebraic geometry&#8221; and his recent <a href=\"https:\/\/johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com\/2019\/01\/08\/geometric-quantization-part-7\/\">blog post<\/a> in his series about geometric quantization.<\/p>\n<p>If you haven&#8217;t already, check out Anna&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/2018\/06\/25\/some-math-for-wedding-season\/\">&#8220;Some Math for Wedding Season&#8221;<\/a> post. (Sure, U.S. wedding season isn&#8217;t quite in swing for this year, but it won&#8217;t be long before it is!)<\/p>\n<p>As usual, you can reach me in the comments section or on Twitter <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/writesRCrowell\">@writesRCrowell<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p><em>Correction: This post was updated on 1\/9\/2019 to reflect the fact that the original Facebook post related to wedding seating arrangements was written by the groom-to-be (not the bride-to-be) and to include additional information (including links) about that wedding event.<\/em><\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Multiple news sites recently reported about a wedding planned between two mathematicians in which the happy couple decided to reveal their guests&#8217; dinner seating arrangements as the answers to math problems.<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" data-url=https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/2019\/01\/08\/on-the-mathematical-wedding-controversy\/><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":143,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[820,912,911],"class_list":["post-4167","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-recreational-mathematics","tag-math-anxiety","tag-reddit","tag-wedding"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3tW3N-15d","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4167","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/143"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4167"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4167\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4181,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4167\/revisions\/4181"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4167"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4167"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.ams.org\/blogonmathblogs\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4167"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}